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Rich
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« on: September 09, 2007, 04:21:02 pm »

Has anyone ever heard or have any experience with Jet University in Fort Lauderdale, FL?  If so, is it a great place?
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2007, 08:18:40 pm »

No personal experience but from what I have read it is just a school that capitalizes on Shiny Jet Syndrome.

Read many, many, many opinions about Jet University by doing a search for their name (enclose it with quotations for better results) here- http://forums.flightinfo.com
You will find that people have a lot to say and it can be summed up in two words: STAY AWAY.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2007, 02:30:34 am »

I have attended Jet Univesity and think its a Waste of money and a complete Scham.  The President Heath Cohen is an OLD Gulf Stream personel and when he was there was hated by the air line community and its showing in there ability to attract airlines in the door.  Another person that is or was a share member was Mark and I dont know is last name he was head of scheduling but was relieved of that posistion las I heard probably because no one like him due to him mind games he would play on people.  Mark wouldnt Show up until 12 or even 2 some times and wouldnt start working on the weekly schedule until about 10pm at night and would change it multiple times during the night.  I think the record was 4 to 6 times in a couple of hours.  The other owner in this Company is Mathias Bowmen (Sp) who is a FO for Air Tran is ready to fill your head with complete lies about the industrie and how much the airlines love this place.  Pinnacle pulled up stakes and will no longer be hiring from Jet U proble becuase of the problems they have had with the students coming out of there.  One student got the Stick shaker 15 ft after take off and was sent back for training.  While another student has been on IOE for about 3 months now and is on his last trial or he is out.  There are a ton more problems with this School besides old graduates and people filling you with lies.  If I was you I would consider a different option one that will produce something for you in the end.  And for the Job Guarentee dont believe them one of my friends didnt pass the interview and Jet U just released him after that.
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2007, 10:11:17 am »

Bill, that doesn't match at all what a friend of mine told me that he experienced while attending Jet U.

I also noticed in another post that you stated Pinnacle pulled up stakes with them. I was also thinking I would attend there since my buddy made it through with what he says is a great experience, and is now working at Pinnacle. So because of what you said, I called Cynthia in their pilot recruiting department and she says that this is far from true. Their web site also currently shows it as an approved bridge program. Jet U is in the top 2 listed actually.

So did you complete the training at Jet U Bill? If so tell us more about what happened to you there please, and why you are personally so bitter with them.


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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2007, 01:01:00 pm »

Does your pal who went to Pinnacle have a serious case of "SJS"? You can get into this business for a lot less that what Jet U. charges. Oh boy...

"Check out the "Hot Topics" portion of the forum [at jetcareers.com] where you can read ad naseum about how professional pilots feel about "Jet U"." - Delta pilot Doug Taylor, webmaster http://www.jetcareers.com
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2007, 03:48:52 pm »

SJS? Does it matter, he has a job doing what he has always dreamed of, and I personally would love to be guilty of SJS if that equals me flying a plane for an airline. (although I do want the training to enable me to do it well)
 

I felt that a first hand impression of the experience would be more valuable, and that is what I have been researching. Understanding my friend to be a little biased as it turned out so good for him, I am still open to more information as everyone is different etc. I am just asking this poster to qualify his remarks about pinnacle, and to tell us more about why he is so upset with this school so that we can all learn more from his experience.

My friend got off reserve status after just 1 month, and is loving his job, so JU cant be all bad right? He did say the pay sucks right now but gets better after a couple years.

I will check out the site you mentioned. Thanks
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2007, 04:56:11 pm »

Draden~

I did complete the program and if I had the chance I would of gone a way different route.  If 9E is the company you wanna fly for then they have a cheaper route through their bridge program and you actually receive full motion Sim time.  What Jet U has to offer would be the best but the people who run the program are what bring it down.  One major down fall to the program is the scheduling, (Mark) will change the schedule multiple times starting at 8 and go all the way to 12am having you wondering when and what you will be doing.  I would ask your friend about that.  I'm also wondering is Robert (Bob)Elimeleck still trying to sell you on the  full motion Sim time that they don't give you.  They tell you 20hrs of CRJ full motion Sim time  and they pay for all the transportation but in actually they send you down to Miami on your own and put you in a MD-80 Sim no where near a CRJ-200 or  900 last I check.  The job guarantee they offer is true in the contract but they dont follow up on it if something did happen.  I had a couple of friends that where not so lucky and failed the interview portion and Mark and Heath did nothing for them.  Another example on how crooked they are is they had one student come down when he was only 20 and infromed him that they could bend the rules for him and when it came to interview time he interviewed and was offered the job but only after he turned 21 in 10 months.  After 9E left he met with Mark and they tried to Hatch something out and he believed they did.  He returned home for some stuff and when he returned Mark and Heath said they offered nothing to him and there part of the contract was up. 

About the bridge program with JU and 9E I was informed that they where xlding it.  I also asked Clint who was employeed with them and he said yes the bridge is no longer but they do have Air Wisconsin and PSA but have not shown up yet.  If you have any other questions feel free to ask and I will answer.

All Im trying to say to people here is your money can be spent in a better way and you still will get a job with an airline.  But if you like beening treated like nobody while beeing trained then by all means go to Jet U.  But be ready for lies upon lies.
 
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2007, 05:09:01 pm »

when did you go through JU? How much time in a plane did you get total hours wise?

ok so you completed and you made it through the hiring process at pinnacle (is that what your calling 9E?)? If not what happened to you? What is 9E if that is not Pinnacle you speak of, and send me more info on this other bridge program you speak of.

You say you talked with Clint, he works for who?

My loans are in place and I start my 9-10 months of training in October, so I am dying to hear more. I would lose my deposits too probably...

Ok you have me a little worried about my decision here so I am all ears.
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2007, 07:06:13 pm »

To answer your 9E is pinnacle airlines
Sounds like you are going down to do 0 time to ATP in what they say 9 months.  Now saying you pass everything the first time I think 6months for what they are saying is a little optimistic  on there hand and you can ask any other pilot on this forum.  So there is one thing I would reconsider.  Have you seen the facilities that you will be living in for the next 9 to 10 months or LONGER?  Compare these area to Flight Safety and I will see you get much more for your money.  I just had a buddy finish there and it took him about 18months he did take about 3 to 4 months off for personel stuff.  But he only did Private to Commerical so add another 3 months on for Jet Transistion.

Per the contract with Jet U which I guess has changed you will lose your 1000.00 deposit but if thats all you lose then I wouldnt frown on it to much.  But with the new contract I have talked to one person that is doing the zero time to Jet Transistion and he says in the new contract if you fail 3 or 4 times I cant remember exactly you are dismissed from the school and this includes stage checks and sim rides so be careful there.

Another thing I would do if I where you would request the contract and read through it extremely carefully and make sure it makes you HAPPY and that what BOB and any other recruiter is telling you isnt a lie.  One major lie that BOB and the other recruiters told me and your friend to is the Full motion SIM time you will get.

The person Clint yes he did use to work there you can actually see him on there web site under Media where they explain everything about JET u he is the person that picks up the CRJ .  Im just wondering what you thought of the living area that you will in habit?  Just remember there is no grocery stores within walking distance and there is no oven, stove or proper cooking area as one should get with a fully furnished facility.  Also the rooms where extremely tiny and you didnt recieve a desk like they said.  So if you do watch the video Im talking about dont go by the room that you seen on the video. 

Flt time was zero that can be logged.

If you can think of any more question go right ahead and ask but if I was you I would extremely closely for another school.  I know you just wanna get it done and get a job but before you go and invest in your career you should research which airline would be the best for you.  Because you never know if you will be stuck there for a longer period of time then ever figured.

One last thing and then I will let you think about this and respond.  For a person that did all his flying at a FBO then going to JET U for the transition course.  I would have to say is you can do it for alot cheaper and get much better instruction at a FBO and then put a little time in on studying profiles and flows before you go for your class date and you will come ahead.  I mean you already have a friend at 9E so you can save money on the that portion.
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2007, 09:15:24 pm »

Bill did you end up at 9E?

I cant reach my friend lately, he cant afford to pay his phone bill is my guess, making what he does! Sad that they pay so little on regionals at first.
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« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2007, 05:06:24 pm »

Bill thanks for all the PM advice, Cherokee over on another board who is there now set me clear on a few things too.

Decision: Called my bank today and cancled the loan. I am going over to FSA, much better school from what the students there are saying about it I will love it.

Even read some current pilot comments calling it a quality program.

Wish me luck Bill and thanks for all your advice! At least you saved me from JU hell, wish I could do the same for you and others!
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« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2007, 10:37:58 pm »

Draden

If you dont mind me asking what site was that?  And im gald you picked another place for training I just hate to see people go some one and be promised one thing and get a whole different set of promises there.

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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2007, 10:41:18 pm »

The jet careers one up above mentioned buddy.

You did good man in my opinion! Toilets that wont flush! No thank you sir, I was in the military for 8 years, no way in hell am I going to a place that cant even keep a clean Latrine! Haha!
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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2007, 10:43:47 pm »

Did you have to pay for that site?
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« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2007, 10:44:20 pm »

No I havent had to so far
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