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« on: February 07, 2006, 12:36:35 pm »

hello all, i think i am posting this in the right place.

if i sound ignorant or anything i apologize ahead of time.  But i have done a fair amount of searching on paths to becoming an airline pilot and the more i learn the more it seems i confuse myself.  

anyways, here is my current situation, i am 22 years old and a senior in college. I will graduate with a BA in december of 06 (10months from now). I am currently in the air national guard as a jet engine mechanic and a part time job working at UPS. I also have a son and a fiancee so i would like to get working on my pilot career sooner rather than later.

as of right now i have 0 flight experience and want to go from 0 flight experience to regional airline interviews

It seems there are a couple of different routes to take to becomng a regional airline pilot. I am doing research on various flight academies, the CAPT program at ERAU, florida regional airline academy, delta connection academy etc..

there is also a local community college that offers a 2 year AS in aviation. this program would cover my flight experience to my CFI rating and i believe about 220hrs. (most of the academic classes would already be satisfied through transcript transfer from my 4 year degree)

i was considering doing all of my training at a structured academy, but am also considering doing the flight program at the local community college and then going to a school like florida regional airline academy for their airline transistion program

i thank you in advance for any advice you have because i would be interested to hear it espically from people in the business who have been down this road before! thanks for the help!

Adam
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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2006, 06:28:52 pm »

Hey Adam,

Sorry no one else responded. I am planning on doing the same thing as you are. I just watched the online seminar "Pilot Training -- Life Changing" and am convinced that the academy method is the way to go. The video showed a table displaying the total time required to obtain different certificates through an academy in one column and through two or three lessons a week in the other column. The difference was literally months apart. That's a lot of excess.

A lot of people are talking about the Delta Connection academy. That's one I'm considering. There are a couple others I'm looking at, too, but I'm leaning towards this one.

~Jonathan
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« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2006, 12:50:35 pm »

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hello all, i think i am posting this in the right place.

if i sound ignorant or anything i apologize ahead of time.  But i have done a fair amount of searching on paths to becoming an airline pilot and the more i learn the more it seems i confuse myself.  

anyways, here is my current situation, i am 22 years old and a senior in college. I will graduate with a BA in december of 06 (10months from now). I am currently in the air national guard as a jet engine mechanic and a part time job working at UPS. I also have a son and a fiancee so i would like to get working on my pilot career sooner rather than later.

as of right now i have 0 flight experience and want to go from 0 flight experience to regional airline interviews

It seems there are a couple of different routes to take to becomng a regional airline pilot. I am doing research on various flight academies, the CAPT program at ERAU, florida regional airline academy, delta connection academy etc..

there is also a local community college that offers a 2 year AS in aviation. this program would cover my flight experience to my CFI rating and i believe about 220hrs. (most of the academic classes would already be satisfied through transcript transfer from my 4 year degree)

i was considering doing all of my training at a structured academy, but am also considering doing the flight program at the local community college and then going to a school like florida regional airline academy for their airline transistion program

i thank you in advance for any advice you have because i would be interested to hear it espically from people in the business who have been down this road before! thanks for the help!

Adam


Adam,

I'm rowing in that boat with you - although single and without family, I just graduated this past December (2005) with a B.A. in English and am currently working for a mortgage company (HORRIBLY boring).  This Fall I'll be finished with my Private but have done some research as well.

From what I hear, Flight Safety Academy in Vero Beach, Florida is *extremely* organized and gets you from "zero to hero" in less than a year.  Now, I've seen some numbers and it's not cheap.  But I have called several times and have spoken with several STUDENTS in the marketing department.  They can't say enough about this place, and I'm good at sniffing-out B.S.

If you're dead-set on airline ratings, I think this is the place to go.  That was my previous plan, but I'm feeling called more to Flight Instructor or Small Transport myself (they can get you that too.)

Here's the down-and-dirty:  Expect to pay between $60,000 to $70,000 - start to finish - for zero hours to conditional employment offers from their partner airlines (ASA, ExpressJet, etc.).  Plus there's room, board, gas, uniforms, etc... it gets pricey, and I surely don't have that laying around.

Have you considered getting your private and instrument, perhaps commercial, then checking out schools for a *drastically* reduced rate?  Also, if you're a full time employee with some of these places, and do your training around the job instead of the other way around, you can get up to 40% on average.

Good luck!  I'm at 3.5 hours of my private right now, lol... baby steps... Smiley

www.flightsafetyacademy.com

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« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2006, 04:55:31 pm »

Let me introduce Falcon Aviation Academy to each of you reading this forum.  They have been around for about 4-5 years and I have gone from Instrument through Multi/Single Commercial.  I would have gotten my private here but I was unaware at the time.  The quality of the training that I received and continue to receive is excellent. For those that are in a hurry to get hired with a regional or corporate flight department, then this is the way to go.  Here's why...

1) It will not cost you 60,000 + for all the training.  You can go from Private (zero flight time) to Multi Engine Instructor Instrument for less than $50,000 plus books and tests.  Now this does not include food, housing, etc. but you will be offered employment as a CFI upon completion of the initial CFI certificate.  From there the incentives beging to emerge.

2) While we do not have a "formal agreement" with any particular airline, Falcon has a 100% hire rate over the past few years with CFI's that have built the flight time to press on (this includes: ASA, ExpressJet, Pinnancle, Chattaqua, Phoenix Air Service, Military, AirShares, and other corporate flight departmets).

3) They have an awesome Diamond aircraft fleet.  They are all less than 4 years old and the rest of the fleet are very well maintained in house.

I could go on forever about the programs they offer and the instructors that work for Falcon.  I would love to talk with you more regarding the academy.  If you are interested just PM or e-mail me and we can chat.  

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« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2006, 09:57:49 pm »

hey guys, thanks a lot for the help and information i really appreciate it!

where is falcon located? do they have a website?

and i checked into the flight safety academy website and they have a program that seems very appealing thanks pilot jeff!  have you visited that campus or anything?

thanks for the help everyone
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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2006, 10:45:28 pm »

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Let me introduce Falcon Aviation Academy to each of you reading this forum.  They have been around for about 3-4 years and I have gone from Instrument through Multi/Single Commercial.  I would have gotten my private here but I was unaware at the time.  I have since been hired into the charter department as a manager and will am slowly working on my CFI while soon to get an SIC checkout.  The quality of the training that I received and continue to receive is excellent. For those that are in a hurry to get hired with a regional or corporate flight department, then this is the way to go.  Here's why...

1) It will not cost you 60,000 + for all the training.  You can go from Private (zero flight time) to Multi Engine Instructor Instrument for less than $46,000, books and tests included.  Now this does not include food, housing, etc. but you will be offered employment as a CFI upon completion of the initial CFI certificate.  From there the incentives beging to emerge.

2) While we do not have a "formal agreement" with any particular airline, Falcon has a 100% hire rate over the past few years with CFI's that have built the flight time to press on (this includes: ASA, ExpressJet, Pinnancle, Chattaqua, Phoenix Air Service, Military, AirShares, and other corporate flight departmets).

3) They have an awesome Diamond/Piper aircraft fleet.  The Diamond's are the single engines and the Piper's are the Multi's.  The Diamond are all less than 3 years old and the rest of the fleet are very well maintained in house.

I could go on forever about the programs they offer and the instructors that work for Falcon.  I would love to talk with you more regarding the academy.  If you are interested just PM or e-mail me and we can chat.  

Spencer
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Great news, Spencer!  See, this is why I love forums, never heard of Falcon until today... the options just get larger and larger.  Do you have a site?

Thx!
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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2006, 10:58:01 pm »

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hey guys, thanks a lot for the help and information i really appreciate it!

where is falcon located? do they have a website?

and i checked into the flight safety academy website and they have a program that seems very appealing thanks pilot jeff!  have you visited that campus or anything?

thanks for the help everyone


Deuce, looks like we're living similar circumstances in different locales Smiley  I have not yet visited FSA but I plan on traveling down to Vero before September.  (They put you up for two nights free and give you breakfast and lunch also, so that takes away the worry of having to line-up hotels.)  FSA is part of the larger company of Flight Safety International and has some pretty slick training ratings such as "upset recovery training" and "spatial disorientation training" as well.  I have a pal that flies a multi-engine for the Army and she did both of the aforementioned trainings at FSA and loved it!  I think the aircraft used are Czech. Zlins... rumor has it that an ex-mig instructor teaches that portion so you KNOW it's fun Smiley  Plus the quote I mentioned above includes the advanced airline training, etc.  Request a marketing packet if you're still interested and they'll send you everything you want/need.  They were very helpful when I said: "Listen, I'm going to have to finance this so tell me real-world numbers.  No b.s., you're a student, I might be a student there...  can you send me material with numbers?"  The marketing staff is comprised of students so they're invaluable for information.  One question I ask them is "What would you do differently?  Any regrets?"

But I know a guy that got went in with zero hours and a year later was sitting right seat and making $36k out of the gate.  That's pretty good if you're interested in strictly the airline route.  Naturally, this negates the benefits of becoming a CFI and getting all sorts of experience and hours and PIC time... but, different strokes for different folks.  I could be flying bush in Alaska for all I know in a year, or instructing in Vero... who knows?  All I know is that I'm sure as hell not going to be flying a #&*$(@ desk at a mortgage company!  :p  You can only plan so far...
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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2006, 08:45:42 am »

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---hey guys, thanks a lot for the help and information i really appreciate it!
---where is falcon located? do they have a website?
---and i checked into the flight safety academy website and they have a program that seems very appealing thanks pilot jeff!  have you visited that campus or anything?
---thanks for the help everyone


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Great news, Spencer!  See, this is why I love forums, never heard of Falcon until today... the options just get larger and larger.  Do you have a site?

Thx!


Falcon Aviation Academy is located in Peachtree City, GA.  It is about 30 min south of Atl Hartsfield Airport.  Falcon Field (KFFC) is a non precision, non towered airport with the perfect atmosphere for training.  Falcon is close to several major Class C and D airports to get valuable training with traffic control, yet far enough from KATL that you don't have to worry about the Class B (the closest Class B that would affect your training would be about 10 miles SW and at 5000 feet.  The rest is not a factor for your training.  Falcon Field will also helo you save money by not burning time on the taxiways waiting for a clearence.

Check out the website at www.faa-air.com or www.falconaviationacademy.com

Just as a side note...they are also about to open a satellite base in Athens, GA  (hint hint....UGA).  This is scheduled for late April.  

Let me know if you have any other questions.
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« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2006, 10:57:00 am »

The satellite base in Athens up and running.  While the planes are still being based out of Peachtree City, Ga. we currently are offering the full spectrum of flight training at this location.  More information is available upon request.

Also, we are now approved for International Flight Training for students that obtain an M-1 VISA.  The process is a little involved however this is a great opportunity for everyone that plays a role in this process.  If you are (or know of someone) that would fall into this category, please refer them to us.
More information is available upon request.

We have also just recently added a Cessna Cardinal to the fleet of Diamonds.  We are expecting a Sept 06 delivery on a Diamond Twin Star however this is subject to change.

Falcon Aviation is working hard for you and are striving continue to producing the quality pilots that we have been for years while maintaining the quality of the fleet and services we offer.

Please contact me with any questions about our programs, facilty, fleet or otherwise and I will gladly respond.

Spencer
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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2007, 02:13:15 pm »

Sry I am little late but Falcon sounds best for your position.  I know that you want to get you commercial and you want be a CFI for commercial with at least 400 hours of flight time for a good paying airline job.  But if you can be a cfi and make money instructing that is also good.  Or even fly for charter would be great for building hours which eventually would build up to your hiring as a airline pilot.
GOOD LUCK,
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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2007, 07:43:44 pm »

I have been reading all these posts verycarefully and would like to thank everyone for their info that they have given. But what is FSA? it soulnds like it might be a good school for someone like me with no flight time. And they put you up for a night while you tour the camus? Like the delta connections acad? This is huge thing for me considering I live in reno NV so it would cost me a lot of money to fly out there and see the campus.
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